Strange Subject:On Resolution No. 6

The complete text of Resolution No. 6 (amendment in boldface), from Baptist Press:

WHEREAS, The ideal of a regenerate church membership has long been and remains a cherished Baptist principle, with Article VI of the Baptist Faith and Message describing the church as a “local congregation of baptized believers”; and

WHEREAS, A New Testament church is composed only of those who have been born again by the Holy Spirit through the preaching of the Word, becoming disciples of Jesus Christ, the local church’s only Lord, by grace through faith (John 3:5; Ephesians 2:8-9), which church practices believers’ only baptism by immersion (Matthew 28:16-20), and the Lord’s supper (Matthew 26:26-30); and

WHEREAS, Local associations, state conventions, and the Southern Baptist Convention compile statistics reported by the churches to make decisions for the future; and

WHEREAS, the 2007 Southern Baptist Convention annual Church Profiles indicate that there are 16,266,920 members in Southern Baptist churches; and

 

WHEREAS, Those same profiles indicate that only 6,148,868 of those members attend a primary worship service of their church in a typical week; and

WHEREAS, The Scriptures admonish us to exercise church discipline as we seek to restore any professed brother or sister in Christ who has strayed from the truth and is in sin (Matthew 18:15-35; Galatians 6:1); and now, therefore, be it

RESOLVED, That the messengers to the Southern Baptist Convention meeting in Indianapolis, Indiana, June 10-11, 2008, urge churches to maintain a regenerate membership by acknowledging the necessity of spiritual regeneration and Christ’s lordship for all members; and be it further

RESOLVED, That we humbly urge our churches to maintain accurate membership rolls for the purpose of fostering ministry and accountability among all members of the congregation; and be it further

RESOLVED, That we urge the churches of the Southern Baptist Convention to repent of the failure among us to live up to our professed commitment to regenerate church membership and any failure to obey Jesus Christ in the practice of lovingly correcting wayward church members (Matthew 18:15-18); and be it further

 

RESOLVED, That we humbly encourage denominational servants to support and encourage churches that seek to recover and implement our Savior’s teachings on church discipline, even if such efforts result in the reduction in the number of members that are reported in those churches, and be it finally

RESOLVED, That we humbly urge the churches of the Southern Baptist Convention and their pastors to implement a plan to minister to, counsel, and restore wayward church members based upon the commands and principles given in Scripture (Matthew 18:15-35; 2 Thessalonians 3:6-15; Galatians 6:1; James 5:19-20). Read the rest of this entry »


Strange Subject:The 2008 Southern Baptist Convention Message

Just before lunch yesterday, Al Gilbert delivered the 2008 Southern Baptist Convention Message. The biblical text focused upon in this message was 1 Corinthians 4:1-2. The message began with Gilbert telling of how when doctors had told him that he had cancer, and possibly only 5 years to live, but a short while later more tests had revealed the growth to be non-cancerous. Gilbert told of the time between these tests, when he thought he might have a short time to live, and he had done a “death-check”- evaluating the state of his soul before God. He then said of the SBC that the “denominational doctors” have told us that we’re sick and possibly dying, but we should not write the obituary yet. We do, however (Gilbert asserted), need to perform a “death-check” to evaluate the state of the Convention before God. Read the rest of this entry »


Strange Subject:SBC First Vice President Nominations

Kevin Ezell, nominating Bill Henard, asserted that his nominee is a:
1.    Godly man (in terms of personal sanctification)
2.    Giver (in terms of CP giving)
3.    Goer (in terms of missions)

Bruce Barber, nominating John Connell, gave the following resume for his nominee:
1.    Pastor with doctorate from NOBTS
2.    13th largest giver to CP in GBC
3.    Character: Approachable, visionary, mentor to upcoming generation

Andrew Higgenbotham, nominating Chris Camden, asserted that his nominee is:
1.    Faithful to our Lord
2.    Faithful to his family
3.    Faithful to the Word
4.    Faithful to his church
5.    Faithful to Christian service Read the rest of this entry »


Strange Subject:SBC Presidential Nominations

[Apologies to readers for not finding the time last week to post thoughts on SBC Today’s interview with Wiley Drake. Though it’s too late now for this to inform your vote, the interview may be heard HERE.]

Junior Hill, nominating Frank Cox, said he was nominating him for the following reasons:
1. Conviction: (Theological and practical)
2. Giving: (To CP)
3. Leadership: (VP of SBC and President of Georgia Baptist Convention two times)
4. Personality: (Gracious, humble, and able to work with all churches– large and small– in the SBC)

John Marshall, nominating Avery Willis, said that Willis will lead in:
1. Revival
2. Discipleship (as evidenced by his work with MasterLife)
3. Cooperative Program (increased CP giving in every church he has served as to as much as 20%)
4. Growth

Wade Burleson, nominating Bill Wagner, cited Dr. Wagner’s resume and emphasized that he is a small church pastor and career missionary.

Alan Stoddard, nominating Les Puryear, presented Puryear as a continuation of what he considered to be the best aspects of Page’s presidency, saying that Puryear would:
1. Continue the practice of Dr. Page of including those previously overlooked
2. Continue Page’s practice of reaching out to ethnic minorities
3. Continue Page’s practice of reaching out to small churches
4. Dr. Puryear will promote greater unity within the SBC

Don Roberts, nominating Wiley Drake, made the following assertions:
1. Drake is a great personal example in personal growth and family life
2. Drake has experience in leadership as a pastor and as organizer of the Presidential Prayer Team
3. Drake is a man of conviction in not giving in to city ordinances to kick homeless people out of sleeping in his church building

Ted Traylor, nominating Johnny Hunt, gave an impassioned speech, which included the following characteristics he felt would make Hunt the best SBC president this next year:
1. His heart for missions: CP giving– 3.3 million dollars last year and church planting efforts
2. His heart for the next generation: Timothy/Barnabas Conference
3. He will unite the SBC
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Strange Subject:SBC President’s Address

Dr. Frank Page began his address to the SBC with a “story from recent history.” On the day after Christmas, a devastating tsunami occurred, and many, many people were killed, but on a particular island only 7 out of more than 7,000 people perished due to villagers faithfully recounting danger signs noted by survivors following a similar disaster in the early 20th century. Dr. Page asked, ‘Will we faithfully recount the signs of both blessing and destruction?’ The text for his address  was John 4:7-30. The context of the passage was given, as Dr. Page explained the amazement of the disciples at Jesus’ conversing with a Samaritan woman. Dr. Page explained and applied 3 features of Jesus’ interaction with the woman: 1. She came to see herself as she really was; if change is going to occur, we must see ourselves as we really are, must deal with our past, must not depend on a substitute righteousness, and must not try to blame others for what is happening within. Dr. Page asked, “Would you join with me in saying, ‘The problem is not somebody else, the problem is me!’” 2. She came to see hope in Christ; 3. She came to share Christ with others. Read the rest of this entry »


Strange Subject:Concerning Dr. Avery Willis as an expected nominee to the SBC presidency

[Due to an error in my notes, I incorrectly identified the interview with Pastor Les Puryear as the fourth one conducted by SBC Today of those six who have indicated that they will allow themselves to be nominated for the presidency of the SBC. Actually, the interview with Pastor Puryear was the fifth and the interview of Dr. Avery Willis- HERE- was the fourth.]

What I appreciated most about this interview:

  1. Referencing Jesus’ words in Luke 4:18-19, Dr. Willis points out that Southern Baptists, as we have become more economically affluent, have developed more of an aversion to reaching out to the poor, the prisoners, the handicapped, the oppressed. Dr. Willis basically (rightly) indicts Southern Baptists for wanting to only evangelize among people just like us– comfortable suburbanites, and he points out that God is not blessing this attitude in evangelism.
  2. In regards to international missions, Dr. Willis focuses attention on the thousands of unreached people groups that have never heard the name of Jesus.
  3. In regards to North American missions, Dr. Willis focuses attention on church planting where no other Baptist church currently exists.

A concern I had in regards to this interview:
Dr. Willis apparently believes that the Camel Method is a good way to evangelize Muslims.


Strange Subject:Concerning Pastor Les Puryear as an expected nominee to the SBC presidency

The fourth interview by SBC Today of one who has said he will allow himself to be nominated for the presidency of the SBC was with Pastor Les Puryear, who is familiar to some in the blogosphere. (The interview can be heard HERE.)

What impressed me most about this interview was that Puryear addressed the apparent lack of compassion demonstrated by the average churchgoer in regards to those without Christ. SBF readers will also be interested in the fact that Puryear self-identifies as a Calvinist.

Some concerns I had regarding statements made by Puryear:

  1. He seemed to take a rather maximal view in regards to the proper function of the Baptist Faith and Message; rather than taking a minimal view (i.e., that those hired by the leaders of Southern Baptist entities must hold to at least the doctrines taught in the BF&M, which is my view), Puryear seemed to be of the opinion that questioning a potential employee’s beliefs in any area beyond the BF&M is inappropriate.
  2. He seemed to view compatibilism as reserving the role of senior pastor for men, but his answer to this question did not seem to reflect the extent of 1 Timothy 2:12- that a woman not teach or exercise authority over a man in a church setting.
  3. Apparently Puryear has criticized public statements made by Pastor Johnny Hunt in regards to Calvinism. But in this interview, Puryear says that his problem with Hunt’s statements was that they were openly critical of other Southern Baptists’ soteriology. But the problem that we at SBF have in regards to Pastor Hunt’s statements is not that they were public, but that we believe them to be incorrect. I don’t think that a pastor, if concerned about a particular doctrinal stance of others within the Convention, should be encouraged to sweep such a concern under the rug; in fact, he has the responsibility to voice such a concern, then others can respond and hopefully everyone involved can come to greater understanding. This, for me, is a case of “I may not agree with what you have to say, but I’ll die for your right to say it.”

Strange Subject:Concerning Pastor Johnny Hunt as an expected nominee to the SBC presidency

The third interview that SBC Today conducted with one who has announced that he will be allowed himself to be nominated the presidency of the SBC was with Pastor Johnny Hunt. (The interview can be heard HERE.)

Some things I liked about this interview:

  1. Hunt seems to advocate Southern Baptists recognizing missionary giving in new and innovative ways– something that is needed because the current system, which (for example) does not recognize giving directly to the Cooperative Program, has some systematic problems.
  2. Hunt has some good thoughts about balancing confessional fidelity with allowing trustees to exercise discernment in hiring decisions.
  3. Hunt offers the following needed call to repentance to the SBC: “We are more concerned with our money not being right than we are with us not being right in [commitment to] taking the gospel to the nations.”
  4. Hunt voices thoughtful support for the Resolution on Integrity in Church Membership.

I actually did not necessarily disagree with anything Pastor Hunt said in this interview. However, when Hunt speaks against “hyper-Calvinists,” I have a concern in regards to his definition of this word, because I do not believe that there are any true hyper-Calvinists within the SBC. Based on past experience, it seems that Hunt defines “hyper-Calvinist” as “any Calvinist who would criticize any aspect of my ministry.”


Strange Subject:Concerning Dr. Bill Wagner as an expected nominee to the SBC presidency

In the second interview of one who has announced that he will allow himself to be nominated for the position of SBC president, SBC Today posted an audio file with Dr. Bill Wagner, which can be heard HERE. As a missionary with the International Mission Board for 31 years, a professor of missions at Golden Gate Baptist Theological Seminary, and now a pastor of a small church in the San Francisco area, Dr. Wagner certainly has the best resume for the job of SBC president. My concerns in regards to Dr. Wagner are as follows:

  1. He seems to be open to Southern Baptists rejoining the Baptist World Alliance, a group with a minimalistic confessional statement that includes member churches that are very much theologically liberal.
  2. He is open to the use of the Camel Method of Muslim evangelism– though he has questions about some aspects of it– based on perceived “results,” which seems to indicate that, to him, biblical principles may be trumped by pragmatic concerns.
  3. He charges that Calvinists on the mission field are less concerned with evangelism and more concerned with discussing theology. This may introduce a false dichotomy between evangelism and theology that, coupled with concern #2, could result in more missionaries using a minimalistic presentation about Jesus and His work followed by an appeal to pray a scripted prayer and a charge to never doubt salvation.

Strange Subject:Concerning Dr. Frank Cox as an expected nominee to the SBC presidency

SBC Today has done Southern Baptists a great service in interviewing those who have announced that they will allow themselves to be nominated for the position of SBC president. Over the next few posts leading up to the Southern Baptist Convention annual meeting, I will give my thoughts on each of these interviews and will encourage SBF readers who listen to these interviews to share your thoughts.

The first interview was of Dr. Frank Cox. (The interview can be heard HERE.) What I appreciated most about this interview is that Dr. Cox has obviously thought a great deal about the Garner Motion and has come to what I consider to be a good conclusion concerning this motion. Much less satisfying was his answer about Calvinism, in which he referred to himself as a Biblicist (Calvinists, of course, also believe that we are simply following the Bible), then went on to assert the free-will and general atonement positions without Scriptural proof. As a Georgia native, I had some knowledge of Dr. Cox and my primary concern in regards to the idea of him as SBC President is that he may be very numbers-focused; this interview did nothing to alleviate that concern.

I wanted to also thank Peter Lumpkins for the work he did in conducting this interview. Lumpkins has been a frequent critic of Calvinism (and his antipathy towards Calvinism is evident in his question concerning this subject), and so several people reading this have probably interacted with him in vigorous debate within the comment threads of various blogs. But (to give credit where credit is due), Lumpkins did a fine job in asking Dr. Cox specific questions about issues important to Southern Baptists, even when such questions might have been uncomfortable for Dr. Cox to answer.